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SIM Council Meeting
January 13th, 2003
Royal Antiguan Resort
Deep Bay - Antigua and
Barbuda
DRAFT MINUTES
ATTENDANCE LIST
COUNCIL MEMBERS
Felipe Urresta President SIM, INEN
Ismael Castelazo Chairman SIM TC, CENAM
Yoshito Mitani, Chairman, SIM PDC, CENAM
Hratch Semerjian SIM/JCRB Representative,
NIST
Steve Carpenter Technical Advisor, NIST
Oscar Harasic Executive Secretary, OAS
José A. Dajes Castro Coordinator ANDIMET,
INDECOPI
Luis Mussio Coordinator SURAMET, LATU
Hermon Edmondson Coordinator CARIMET, BSJ
Paulo Ferracioli On behalf of Past
President, INMETRO
Taynah Lopes de Souza On behalf of SIM
Secretariat, INMETRO
OBSERVERS
Jorge Cruz INMETRO, Brazil
AGENDA
1. Introduction and Welcome /
Introdución y Bienvenida
2. Verification of Quorum / Verificación de
Quórum
3. Approval of Agenda / Aprobación de Agenda
4. Approval of the Minutes from previous
Council Meeting / Aprobación de la Acta de
la Reunión Anterior del Consejo
5. Matters arising from the Minutes /
Asuntos derivados de la Acta
6. Report on 2002 Budget and Redistribution
of Remaining Funds among Working Groups /
Informe sobre el Presupuesto de 2002 y
Redistribution de los Fundos Restantes entre
los Grupos de Trabajo
7. Definition of SIM Activities with the
2003 OAS Project / Definición de las
Actividades del SIM con el Proyecto de la
OEA 2003
8. OAS Project Preparation for fiscal year
2004 / Preparación del Proyecto de OAS por
eyercicio económico 2004.
9. Scholarship and Training / Propuesta de
Becas y Treinamientos
10. Designation of a Working Group for
organizing next GA / Designación de um grupo
de trabajo para la organización de la GA
11. Report from SIM Representative to JCRB /
Informe del Representante del SIM
12. Request of CAMET to install and to put
in operation the SIMNET / Petición de CAMET
para instalar y poner en operación el SIMNET
13. Proposal for the central subject of
GA/2003 presented by Panama / Propuesta del
tema central de la GA/2003 presentada por
Panama
14. Request of SIM support to make an event
related to the inauguration of the Guatemala
Metrological Center, December/2003 /
Solicitación de apoyo al SIM para realizar
evento relativo a inauguración del Centro
Metrológico de Guatemala, Deciembre/2003
15. Proposal of a new SIM Project 2004-2006
"Metrology for the Development of the
Subregions" / Propuesta de nuevo proyecto
SIM 2004-2006 "Metrología para el Desarrollo
de las Subregiones"
16. SIM International Relationships /
Relaciones Internacionales de SIM:
- SIM Representation to NCSLI Meeting
- SIM Representation to EUROMET Meeting
- SIM Participation at the CGPM
17. Discussion on the Language used in SIM
Meetings / Discusión sobre la lengua usada
en reuniones de SIM
18. Other Business / Otros Asuntos
Meeting:
1. Introduction and Welcome /
Introdución y Bienvenida
President Felipe Urresta welcomed the
Council Members.
2. Verification of Quorum /
Verificación de Quórum
The quorum was verified, eleven members
of Council being present.
3. Aproval of Agenda / Aprobación de
la Agenda
The agenda was approved with no
amendments.
4. Approval of the minutes from
previous Council Meeting / Aprobación de la
Acta de la Reunión Anterior del Consejo
The minutes were approved with the
following amendments:
Taynah Souza should be listed in the Council
Members as Recording Secretary.
Discussion about CR11/02. Ismael Castelazo
raised the point of discussion the
resolution a bit more.
After some discussion, it was decided to
keep the Resolution the way it is as it was
agreed that SIM interactions should be made
only with NMI's or the laboratories
designated by them.
Item 5: a letter should be sent not just for
Janusz Luztyk and Karen Brown but also to
Joaquin Valdés and Giorgi Moscati.
Hratch Semerjian mentioned that the letter
should contain not just congratulation but
also a position paper explaining to CIPM the
SIM activities.
5. Matters arising from the minutes /
Asuntos derivados de la Acta
A position paper on SIM activities shall
be prepared to be sent to members of CIPM.
Felipe Urresta and Taynah Souza are going to
prepare it.
Felipe Urresta pointed out that the
presentation to NCSLI meeting shall be
prepared in accordance to CR09/02.
Felipe Urresta is going to prepare a letter
asking all NMIs to send an updated list of
designated laboratories to the secretary, in
accordance to CR11/02.
6. Report on 2002 Budget and
Redistribution of Remaining Funds among
Working Groups / Informe sobre el
Presupuesto de 2002 y Redistribution de los
Fundos Restantes entre los Grupos de Trabajo
Steve Carpenter explained that the third
disbursement from OAS - 20% of the total
amount approved - shall be liberated within
two or three weeks. Luis Mussio informed
that the money left with LATU was around US$
12,000.00, but that US$ 3,000.00 were
already committed to some expenses related
to the General Assembly held in Chile.
Therefore we have around US$ 9,000.00 left
to be redistributed.
Ismael Castelazo then made a presentation on
how the money is spent within the Technical
Committee, specially related to per diem and
air fares for some meetings to different
countries.
Steve Carpenter raised the issue of the
supporting letter to the budget. He
mentioned that for last year only 19
countries sent this letter and that this
represented a problem for keeping OAS
support. They have reduced the budget
because of the reduced number of countries
supporting the project.
It was raised the point of obtaining extra
funds - like a cooperation project between
Brazil and Bolivia. But Steve Carpenter
explained that for OAS funds the projects
should be multinational.
Hratch Semerjian proposed that all letters
of support should have a copy sent to Oscar
Harasic in OAS too. The Coordinator of the
subregions shall be responsible to get the
letters from the NMIs. The Council agreed on
this issue that shall now be a Council
recommendation to the NMIs.
The Secretary must send a letter to all NMIs
asking them to send a support letter for
OAS.
Resolution 01/03:Council must
prepare a document for OAS's final report.
Steve Carpenter, Luis Mussio and Ismael
Castelazo shall later decide how to spend
the money left during the next 3 months.
7. Definition of SIM Activities with
the 2003 OAS Project / Definición de las
Actividades del SIM con el Proyecto de la
OEA 2003
Steve Carpenter presented the Executive
Plan for 2003, showing the reduction on OAS
funds from US$ 250,000.00 to US$ 180,000.00.
He showed the difference between SIM
proposal and CENPES proposal and then
mentioned he intends to send a report to OAS
explaining why CENPES proposal is not enough
for SIM activities.
It was decided to accept CENPES proposal and
use the US$ 35,000.00 left that Steve
Carpenter has from USA contribution. This
amount must be spent by the end of July.
Ismael Castelazo informed the Council that
he had received the proposals with the
funding requests from three Working Groups
only: WG1- Electricity and Magnetism (US$
35,000.00), WG4- Length (US$ 12,000.00) and
WG9-Acoustics, Ultrasound and Vibration (US$
11,000.00).
There was some discussion on the requests.
The money requested by WG1 was considered as
too much. The money requested by WG4 was for
the organization of a seminar in Costa Rica
and it was well seen but with the idea of
including other WGs. The money requested by
WG9 was for a intercomparison but the
CR01/02 does not allow SIM money to be spent
on interconparisons, except for the purchase
of artifacts that can be used for other SIM
activities.
Hratch Smerjian proposed a modification on
this resolution as follows:
Resolution 02/03:Participation in
Key comparisons will not be supported with
SIM funds, execpt for buying artifacts that
could be used for other SIM activities and
in exceptional cases for transport of
delicate artifacts.
The resolution was preliminary approved
by all Council Members except for SURAMET
Coordinator who asked for some time to
discuss such modification in the subregion.
It's agreed that the resolution will be
approved only after SURAMET agrees, what
shall happen in February.
It was also pointed out that further
discussion shall be made to decide on the
distribution among Working Groups and decide
what can be financed or not.
8. OAS Project Preparation for fiscal
year 2004 / Preparación del Proyecto de OAS
por eyercicio económico 2004.
Oscar Harasic informed that the deadline
for submissions was July 15th and that the
same committee shall be responsible for that
- Luis Mussio, Steve Carpenter, Oscar
Harasic and Ismael Castelazo.
The Council must start thinking of some
broad topics to the project. It was
suggested some topics like Quality System
and FTAA.
It shall be discussed during next GA.
9. Scholarship and Training /
Propuesta de Becas y Treinamientos
Oscar Harasic explained that the
Scholarship Office from OAS is now
independent from the Agency and will be able
to take their own decisions. He also pointed
out that countries that have already got an
infraestructure for courses should offer
them for the participation of all members
and OAS would pay for part of these courses
for the participants. NMIs must present the
vacancies they have for their courses to
OAS.
Felipe Urresta shall send a letter of
support for this program.
10. Designation of a Working Group for
organizing next GA / Designación de um grupo
de trabajo para la organización de la GA
It was pointed out that the organization
of the General Assembly is a SIM event and
the Council is the responsible for this
organization. There are local arrangements
but the hosting country is not the
responsible for the main decisions.
A resolution was proposed by Paulo
Ferracioli about the designation of a
Working Group for organizing next GA as
follows:
Resolution 03/03:The Council has
decided that the organization of General
Assemblies shall be coordinated by a Working
Group. This group shall be responsible for
decisions concerning the programs of the
seminar and for the coordination of
activities related to the organization. For
the next GA the Working Group shall be
composed by five members of the Council: the
President, TC Chair, PDC Chair, Executive
Secretary and the Representative to NCSLI.
11. Report from SIM Representative to
JCRB / Informe del Representante del SIM
Hratch Semerjian commented that INEN had
not submited any CMCs.
Only NIST, CENAM, INMETRO, LATU and INTI
submited.Hratch Semerjian explained that
some institutes will make a self
declaration.
He also mentioned that the next JCRB meeting
will be in March 2004 and that until then
the institutes will have to have a position
on their Quality System.
The date for the next General Assembly was
established - the week of 14th to 19th of
September will be set up for the related
events and the GA will be on 17th and 18th.
The first Council Meeting will be on 14th
afternoon and the second Council Meeting
will be on 19th morning.
Hratch Semerjian will send a formal
invitation to Terry Quinn inviting him for
the GA.
Felipe Urresta will send a letter to Panama
confirming those dates.
12. Request of CAMET to install and to
put in operation the SIMNET / Petición de
CAMET para instalar y poner en operación el
SIMNET
Steve Carpenter explained that to get
connected to SIMNET the suitable equipment
would be necessary.
It was decided to prepare a letter to be
sent to all members explaining that if they
want to get connected to SIMNET they need to
send an e-mail to Steve Carpenter describing
their equipment and he will provide the
software.
13. Proposal for the central subject
of GA/2003 presented by Panama / Propuesta
del tema central de la GA/2003 presentada
por Panama
The Secretariat hasn't received any
proposals from Panama on the central subject
of GA/2003.
The Council agreed that we should ask Panama
for some ideas of the central subject of the
GA/03 and then decide which one will be
chosen.
The Secretariat shall send a letter to
Panama informing them that a Working Group
has been designated for the GA/03
organization and asking them to send
proposals for the central subject of the
event.
Steve Carpenter suggested that a letter
should also be sent to the Working Groups to
know what workshops would they be interested
in.
14. Request of SIM support to make an
event related to the inauguration of the
Guatemala Metrological Center, December/2003
/ Solicitación de apoyo al SIM para realizar
evento relativo a inauguración del Centro
Metrológico de Guatemala, Deciembre/2003
The issue was discussed among the
Council members and it was decided to ask
for more details on this event to CAMET to
be sure that the Guatemala Metrological
Center will be ready and to know whether SIM
will have enough funds for the support as it
will happen in the end of the fiscal year.
15. Proposal of a new SIM Project
2004-2006 "Metrology for the Development of
the Subregions" / Propuesta de nuevo
proyecto SIM 2004-2006 "Metrología para el
Desarrollo de las Subregiones"
The issue shall be discussed during next
General Assembly but the theme of trade will
probably be in the Project.
16. SIM International Relationships /
Relaciones Internacionales de SIM:
- SIM Representation to NCSLI Meeting
- SIM Representation to EUROMET Meeting
- SIM Participation at the CGPM
SIM Representation to NCSLI Meeting
A document must be prepared for the next
NCSLI Meeting and it was decided that Felipe
Urresta should be responsible for that, in
accordance to CR09/02. It was decided that
Luis Mussio and someone from CARIMET will
participate in the meeting to be responsible
for maintaining the booth.
There was a discussion about SIM Mission and
Vision and new ones were established in
accordance to the following resolution:
Resolution 04/03: SIM Mission: "To
promote and support an integrated
measurement infrastructure in the Americas
that ensures equity in the market place,
improves the quality of life and facilitates
international trade".
SIM Vision: "A representative, transparent
and integrated regional metrology
organization committed to ensure uniformity
of measurements in the Americas".
SIM Representation to EUROMET Meeting
The issue was discussed and it was
decided that SIM President should attend the
meeting and the following resolution was
approved, concerning various meetings:
Resolution 05/03: The Council
decided to have representation at the
meetings of NCSLI, EUROMET, OIML and APMP
annual meetings. The SIM President is
expected to attend these meetings; if he's
not available to attend these meetings he
will designate another representative.
17. Discussion on the Language used in
SIM Meetings / Discusión sobre la lengua
usada en reuniones de SIM
This issue was discussed and it was
decided to keep the same situation.
Documents can be written in any of the 4
languages and OAS will keep an English
version in accordance to statutes. During
the GA translators shall be hired and during
Council Meeting the language used shall be
English for practical reasons.
18. Other Business / Otros Asuntos
The German Agreement
Oscar Harasic distributed a letter sent
by the German Government to OAS concerning
SIM-PTB Project.
The Council discussed the letter and many
questions were raised. Steve Carpenter
suggested that Oscar Harasic wrote a letter
for the German Government saying that the
Council needs some clarification on some
points.
The concern raised was that PTB could intend
to have control over the money and OAS may
think we do not need any further funding.
Ismael Castelazo pointed out that even if
some points have to be clarified, the
proposal was good to SIM.
Oscar Harasic asked us to have patience for
a few weeks before he can do the
arrangements to try and have the project
managed by his office instead of the Agency.
The Council decided to establish two other
meetings - one of the Working Group
responsible for the General Assembly
organization and another one to discuss the
calendar of future activities, included the
next Council Meeting date (See Annex I,
which was presented by Panama after the
meeting and Annex II).
The meeting was closed at 10:00pm.
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